Comments on: TIF result: landslide ‘no’

By: patricksuncle

patricksuncle — Sat, 13 Dec 2008 21:44:00 +0000

Most people realised because it was always obvious, even when you read your ballot paper that it was never A or B but YES or no. The people have said no. End of.

By: Rob Adlard

Rob Adlard — Sat, 13 Dec 2008 13:14:57 +0000

I think one of the most offensive post-result comments from the Labour leaders of this city is that “there is no plan B”. Why on earth not!? Who puts all their expensive eggs into one basket without an eye on the risk and what else might be acheived. That more than anything else illustrates the crazy approach to this project.
It is now the job of people like myself in the NO camp to begin pushing the government for common sense, and to insist they start backing Manchester properly and making up for the years of delayed funding. Its clear the Labour leaders of this city are incapable of that.

By: Martin O'Neill

Martin O'Neill — Sat, 13 Dec 2008 11:26:43 +0000

I had a number of hopes as I left Manchester Central yesterday.
(1) The turnouts for the referendum will be reflected in the next election.
(2) That Leese, Smith & Co will realise they were elected to represent the views of the people not try to impose schemes and tell the people we know what is best for you.
(3) That a plan b can be formulated without calls of ‘we havent got any money’.
….and finally I might get that meeting with Richard Leese now.
All in all a happy day for democracy.

By: M.Lawton

M.Lawton — Fri, 12 Dec 2008 16:53:25 +0000

Yes of course its all the fault of the “stupid” voters.
In all areas by a vast majority.
Just for once will the Yes people admit the scheme that they proposed was amateurish and just not good enough to convince people.
Even Manchester voted against where the vast majority will not pay, plus Salford which has the highest % NO when it has the majority of its people inside the M60 Outer Ring. These facts support this opinion.
Look in the mirror and see the money you have wasted on this debacle.

By: steve dawson

steve dawson — Fri, 12 Dec 2008 16:47:17 +0000

Marc i’m saving £1200+ a year which isn’t going to private bus companies! I don’t care!
Congestion WHAT CONGESTION?

By: Marc

Marc — Fri, 12 Dec 2008 15:49:23 +0000

I think this also tells you that 70 to 80% of the British public are small c conservatives. They’ll always vote for “NO CHANGE”.
Yes I know in those “early heady” Blair years – the Scots, Welsh & Londoners all voted for devolved powers – but there’s not a cat-in-hells-chance of now say Greater Mancunians voting for a Greater Manchester mayor & “more local” politicians, either. (Remember that vote in the North East?)
So where do we go from here? Forever dominated & controlled from London? Back to the “begging bowl” I’m afraid!

By: steve dawson

steve dawson — Fri, 12 Dec 2008 15:31:25 +0000

A proud day for democracy
A sad day for the MILLIONS wasted on SPIN!
My “behavior change” isn’t going to happy sorry Dicky!
I will be having a celebratory drink tonight, after first giving my car the Italian tuneup on the motorway as lets face it WHAT CONGESTION PROBLEM!
David how much do you tally the “COST” of TIF to have cost manchester Taxpayers so far?
Steve

By: Chris

Chris — Fri, 12 Dec 2008 15:15:08 +0000

An 80% vote AGAINST congestion charging….just as us more ‘optimistic’ anti-toll people said it would be.
12-18 months ago I think it would have been more like a 60:40 split but in these sour times not many are going to vote for a potential pay cut of £1200 a year no matter how it is sold to you.
Food for thought – no road pricing please. Forget it….it’s dead.

By: Just say no!

Just say no! — Fri, 12 Dec 2008 15:02:47 +0000

And lets hope they don’t backpeddle by submitting another botched bid and asking for another referendum like they are going to do in Ireland.

By: I voted no

I voted no — Fri, 12 Dec 2008 15:01:23 +0000

Could you add turn-out to that spreadsheet David and actual figures in the bars? Pretty please…